Re: [Condor-users] MATLAB licenses

[Maxim Kovgan <maxim.kvg@xxxxxxxxx>]

as long as mcc can indeed produce statically linked program, it is
almost no pain.

The good thing about matlab/other scripts is that the runtime is not
transfered, only the data and the "instructions" for the runtime,
which makes all the computation less network intensive.

So you want to minimize netywork transfers, and for that you will must
copy the executable on all of the worker nodes, and probably put it in
the PATH.
you must consider though what is faster: to build these files, test
their operation and distribute them, or simply run all the
calculations on these 2 machines via matlab scripts.

I hope you have enough calculations to justify the hassle.


Regards,
Max.


On 2/9/06, f.pappenberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Our solution is  a license for the Matlab compiler toolbox. We submit the compiled  programs to condor. Is still a sligth pain as you have to make shure that you take all the libraries with you (but perhaps someone has a better solution for that)
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> > well most people in my lab use matlab.
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> >   so i have to use it in any case.
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> >   plus matlab is not installed on every system. but only one system from where users access it and use it over the network.
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> >   all the processing is done on the system where it is installed.
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> >   so how will condor schedule a matlab script in this case?
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> > Maxim Kovgan <maxim.kvg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:  Another thing... are you sure matlab is the only tool that can run
> > your scripts ?
> > I mean if you use some basic features of matlab, maybe octave will
> > suffice, and it has no licensing issues.
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> > Max.
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> > On 2/9/06, Maxim Kovgan  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I can think of 2 directions:
> > > 1. you can wrap your matlab script into another script, which will
> > > e.g. check how many licenses are left and poll the license server
> > > until some threshold is reached, prior to launching matlab executable.
> > >
> > > 2. you can try using limits of maximum running jobs via the pool global macro:
> > > MAX_JOBS_RUNNING, but then you need to make sure ... the only matlab
> > > user runs this job.
> > >
> > > 3. If it is possible,  you should obtain enough licenses to have the
> > > whole pool busy.
> > >
> > >
> > > --Max.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/9/06, Ben Liblit
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> > > > I recently submitted a batch of 260 jobs, each of which runs two MATLAB
> > > > batch scripts ("matlab -nojvm -nodisplay -r ...") toward the end of its
> > > > work.  53 of these jobs failed because they were unable to obtain a
> > > > MATLAB license:
> > > >
> > > >      License Manager Error -4.
> > > >      Maximum number of users for MATLAB reached.
> > > >      Try again later.
> > > >      To see a list of current users use the lmstat utility.
> > > >
> > > > The MATLAB scripts are short, each lasting no more than a few seconds.
> > > > But my 260 jobs include many subgroups of about equal duration, which
> > > > means I'll be creating large spikes in MATLAB license demand.
> > > >
> > > > What's the right approach here?  Is there a different way one is
> > > > supposed to run MATLAB under Condor?  Is there a way to declare the need
> > > > for a MATLAB license as part of a job's classad restrictions?  Should
> > > > every Condor node have a specially reserved MATLAB license for the
> > > > exclusive use of the Condor job it is currently running, or multiple
> > > > such licenses for nodes that run multiple concurrent jobs?
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> >  current users use the lmstat utility.<br>> ><br>> > The MATLAB scripts are short, each lasting no more than a few seconds.<br>> > But my 260 jobs include many subgroups of about equal duration, which<br>> > means I'll be creating large spikes in MATLAB license demand.<br>> ><br>> > What's the right approach here?  Is there a different way one is<br>> > supposed to run MATLAB under Condor?  Is there a way to declare the need<br>> > for a MATLAB license as part of a job's classad restrictions?  Should<br>> > every Condor node have a specially reserved MATLAB license for the<br>> > exclusive use of the Condor job it is currently running, or multiple<br>> > such licenses for nodes that run multiple concurrent jobs?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Condor-users mailing list<br>> > Condor-users@xxxxxxxxxxx<br>> >
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