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>>Can the VM really be hidden from the PC user? My preliminary
>>searching suggests no. It will be there on the taskbar.
Atleast in Windows i dont think VMware can run non interactively
as a dameon. although it can be reduced to the task bad which might
at some time tempt a secretary to investigate what it is:)
3) Is there a way for the condor client on the linux VM to know
that the windows OS is busy (CPU, keyboard, mouse activity)?
VMware is sensitive to certain combinations of keys which suggest
that it does keep track of whats being typed.
However, as it provides a completely transparent environment
to the guest OS i guess the condor client will only be able to
detect the use of keyboard and mouse IF you use the keyboard inside
the guest OS. Condor will not detect keyboard activity outside
the guest OS that is in the host OS.
I am making this assumption because even to start using VMware f! irst
you have to click inside the guest OS to activate VMware.which means
that until VMware is activated the guest OS inside VMware is
literally in a suspended state.
PS: i also work at CSIRO. is there any possibility of flocking
jobs to Western Australia from NSW?
My supervisor want this feature demonstrated and to be part of my report.
Hi All
I've been asked to look into the possibility of adding virtual
linux to windows boxes and installing the condor client on the
linux VM.
Quick background - we are primarily a windows organisation (we are
tied in with Dell and Microsoft) for machines on the desktop.
We do have a smallish but significant amount of *nix around, but
mainly servers, not too much on the desktop. We do have scientists
that could make use of condor linux clients.
We already have a few pools of a few hundred PCs running windows
that is working well (for those scientists with windows apps!).
The "ideal" would be to have a virtual linux machine running (that
included the condor client) AND that was "invisible" to the end user.
They don't even need to know it's there. That way we could have a
pool of linux machines as well for those users that needed to run
linux apps.
VMWare and VirtualPC are 2 examples of packages, although I'm led to
believe that VMWare handles linux OS's better. Maybe there are others
that are more suitable (or cheaper :))?
A number of issues come to mind (and probably many others I haven't
thought of straight away).
1) The VM will be "stealing" resources from the windows PC (most
importantly RAM). Not an issue perhaps for secretaries with 1Gb RAM
PCs. It would also be important for the linux ! VM to have enough RAM
to be a useful condor client.
2) Can the VM really be hidden from the PC user? My preliminary
searching suggests no. It will be there on the taskbar.
3) Is there a way for the condor client on the linux VM to know
that the windows OS is busy (CPU, keyboard, mouse activity)?
4) Or to paraphrase Darryl Kerrigan from the movie "The Castle",
"You're dreamin' son!" (apologies to all the non-aussies on this
list, which is the majority).
As I said this is just some preliminary thinking to try and answer
someone's request. Any info/suggestions appreciated.
Cheers
Greg
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