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Re: [Condor-users] Condor Group Drive me Crazy.......

Why can't you just set all the GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS parameters to FALSE? What doesn't work the way you want then? 

joe

Sassy Natan wrote:

Thanks For the Help Man!
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Joe Boyd <boyd@xxxxxxxx <mailto:boyd@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: 

    I may have missed a part of the thread or something as I'm not sure
    what you're trying to have it do in the end.

    If you have any of the GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_* parameters set to TRUE
    that group will end up running more than the quota set if you have
    free slots.  You said it only gets 13 jobs running when you submit
    that first job.  Is that true even after several negotiation
cycles??? I'm surprised it wouldn't run more. yes, even after several negotiation cycles running job not going up more then 13.
If I send the two submission file the same time (60 job totals of two group) I also don't get more then 13 jobs... 
     I see that you have

    GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_vcs = FALSE

    but I don't think that's going to make the top level group_vcs not
    go above it's 13 if the subgroups have it TRUE.  I'm not sure that
    parameter is really enforced down the hierarchy (sounds like it's
    not from your experience).  Is that why you're saying it shouldn't
    run more than 13?  Because of the setting I quote above?

Yes this is what I'm saying.....
In that case I don't understand the preemption method. 
what do u suggester?


    joe


    Sassy Natan wrote:

        Hi Joe,

        Well yes this is true... When setting the GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_*
        to FALSE jobs doesn't leap outside the quota limit.

        However, Since this configuration use Sub Groups I expect to
        have dynamic allocation inside the group.
        So in my configuration:

        GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs = 13
        GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.design___single = 4
        GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.design___list = 1
        GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.__verification_single = 5
        GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.__verification_list  = 3
The VCS group has limit of 13 slots right? 

        So when someone from the vcs.verification_single send a Job
        (queue 30) - and the pool is clean (no jobs at the moment) the
        number of current running jobs should be 13 (17 in idle)
        This in fact what happen when I submit the job. But once a send
        a new job (queue 30) - from the verification_list I would expect
        that at least 3 jobs will run right away, causing 3 jobs from
        the  vcs.verification_single group to be preempted or killed.
        However what is happening is that the 13 jobs of the
         vcs.verification_single group are keep running and 3 something
        even 4 jobs being added to running state. Leaving me with total
        of 16-17 running jobs which is not good.

        Any Guess?

        I working on this all day without any luck :-(

        Thanks
Sassy On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Joe Boyd <boyd@xxxxxxxx 
        <mailto:boyd@xxxxxxxx> <mailto:boyd@xxxxxxxx
        <mailto:boyd@xxxxxxxx>>> wrote:

           If you want those groups to be limited to only what the quota has
           you don't want to set these to TRUE do you?

           GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_____vcs.verification_list  = TRUE
           GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_____vcs.verification_single = TRUE


           That's telling it that those groups can use any "surplus"
        slots in
           the pool outside of the quota configuration if no one else is
        using
           them. If you set those to FALSE doesn't it do what you want?

           joe


           Sassy Natan wrote:

               Hi Again....

               I'm kind of lost here.
               Enable debug mode and check the logs and still no good.


               I attach the condor.local.conf file ....


               Thanks for the help....


               On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Sassy Natan
        <sassyn@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx>
               <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx>>
        <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx>

               <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sassyn@xxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:

                  Hi All
                  Here is cut and paste from my condor configuration file:

                  GROUP_NAMES = GROUP_VCS, GROUP_VCS.DESIGN_SINGLE,
                  GROUP_VCS.DESIGN_LIST, GROUP_VCS.VERIFICATION_SINGLE,
                  GROUP_VCS.VERIFICATION_LIST

                  GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs = 13
                  GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.design_____single = 4
                  GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.design_____list = 1
                  GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.____verification_single = 5
                  GROUP_QUOTA_group_vcs.____verification_list  = 3



                  GROUP_AUTOREGROUP = FALSE
                  GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS = FALSE

                  GROUP_AUTOREGROUP_group_vcs = FALSE
                  GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_vcs = FALSE

                  GROUP_AUTOREGROUP_group_vcs.____design_single = FALSE
                  GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_____vcs.design_single = TRUE

                  GROUP_AUTOREGROUP_group_vcs.____design_list = FALSE
                  GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_____vcs.design_list = TRUE

                  GROUP_AUTOREGROUP_group_vcs.____verification_single =
        FALSE
                  GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_____vcs.verification_single
        = TRUE

                  GROUP_AUTOREGROUP_group_vcs.____verification_list  = FALSE
                  GROUP_ACCEPT_SURPLUS_group_____vcs.verification_list
         = TRUE



                  I have now 2 submission files, each with 100 Jobs....
                  submit the first file name: verification_single.sub start
               processing
                  13 jobs as expected (with the
                  group group_vcs.verification_single specified in the
        submit file)

                  so far everything is good...
                  after 5 min I now submitting the next file
                  name verification_list.sub (with the
                  group group_vcs.verification_list specified in the
        submit file)

                  Expected results are that at least 4 jobs from
               verification_list.sub
                  will start run and total of 13 fobs will run in the
        cluster.
                   All other 187 jobs should be idle consider none of
        them as
               finished
                  (Each submission include 100 jobs).

                  However the real results is that I get 18 jobs running
        which
               is not
                  good! Why? Why? Why? Why?
                  I just don't understand it.

                  I also enable NEGOTIATOR_CONSIDER_PREEMPTION since I would
               like to
                  use PREEMPTION.
                  I would expect that from the 13 running process from
                  the verification_single.sub submission, once I submit
                  the  verification_list.sub, 4 jobs will be PREEMPT...

                  Takes for any help....
                  Sassy
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