Re: [HTCondor-users] Windows Keyboard Idle Isn't Working on 8.3.6

[Todd Tannenbaum <tannenba@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 7/27/2015 2:10 PM, Bud wrote:
> At the moment there are 2 condor_kbdd.exe processes; one running as
> SYSTEM and another running as me.

Good, there should be a condor_kbdd.exe running for each logged-in user.

The condor_kbdd.exe detects keyboard and mouse activity, and when it 
sees activity it sends a message to the condor_startd.exe running on the 
machine.  The condor_startd.exe receives the message and updates the 
KeyboardIdle slot attribute to be how many seconds since it last 
received a message from the kbdd (i.e. how many seconds since the last 
keypress or mouse movement).

So one way to debug is to query the startd with condor_status like so

C:\>condor_status -direct slot1@ToddsThinkpad -af KeyboardIdle
2

In the above example, HTCondor thinks a keypress happened two seconds 
ago.  If I kill all condor_kbdd.exe instances from the task manager, 
then the KeyboardIdle number continues to increase to infinity.

BTW, I just tested all this on my Thinkpad which is running Windows 7 
Enterprise 64bit and HTCondor v8.3.6.

Hope the above helps
Todd

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run is empty
> in my case.  However I did a search through the registry and
> Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
> contains an entry for condor_kbdd.
>
> I tried starting condor_kbdd.exe from the command line and it exits
> immediately.  %ERRORLEVEL% is reported as 0, no error messages.
>
> On 07/27/2015 02:54 PM, Ziliang Guo wrote:
> > The kbdd is supposed to start up as a process in the user's session.
> > Having it in the DAEMON_LIST doesn't do anything since those processes
> > are run in session 0 with all other services and cannot see input from
> > other sessions. The installer is supposed to inject a registry entry
> > that will start the kbdd on user login. If you're not seeing a user
> > kbdd process, check the
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run to see
> > if the kbdd value is in there. If it is there, see what happens if you
> > try running the kbdd manually, if it crashes or exits right away.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Bud<budric@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I installed HTCondor 8.3.6 on a Windows 7 64 bit, desktop to run jobs using
> > > msi package.  I selected "Run jobs when the keyboard has been idle for 15
> > > minutes, and the CPU is idle." and "Restart the job on a different machine."
> > > during installation, however neither one of these options does what it says.
> > > Jobs are sent to that machine even though I have been using the keyboard and
> > > the running jobs aren't paused/moved after I use the keyboard more and use
> > > the CPU to compile code.
> > >
> > > condor_config contains KBDD in DAEMON_LIST option, but no other options
> > > regarding idle keyboard or cpu.  condor_kbdd.exe is running as SYSTEM user
> > > and as me, and the logs for kbdd don't show any errors (just messages about
> > > starting up and listening on port).
> > >
> > > Anyone else experiene this?  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can
> > > troubleshoot this problem?
> > >
> > > I was digging and 7.6 documentation has examples for configuring policy:
> > > http://research.cs.wisc.edu/htcondor/manual/v7.6/3_5Policy_Configuration.html#sec:Time_of_Day_Policy
> > > However 8.3.* documentation doesn't have this (or I can't find it) and I
> > > assume the msi choices along with default settings for KBDD should be enough
> > > that I don't have to add "WANT_SUSPEND" and "WANT_VACATE" settings.  If not,
> > > any help on minimum set of configurations I need would help.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
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Todd Tannenbaum <tannenba@xxxxxxxxxxx> University of Wisconsin-Madison
Center for High Throughput Computing   Department of Computer Sciences
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