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[Condor-users] problem starting/stopping condor

I have rebuilt condor with the 6.7.3 version and having a little trouble starting and stopping it. I can start it with sbin/condor_master ok but when I try to stop it with either sbin/condor_master_off or condor_off -master I get the following :

Can't find address for local master
Perhaps you need to query another pool.

All of the daemons are not killed either....so how should I be starting and stopping condor?