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Re: [Condor-users] Environment problems in submit files

Andrey,
We have talked about adding a ClassAd function that can do version comparisons. Your suggestion is good too. In fact, right now, you could create your own custom machine ClassAd attributes by using a startd cron script that parses the output from condor_version and produces individual attributes.
I should mention that for the specific case of matching versions of Condor that understand the new environment syntax, you should find that it does a fairly good job of doing the right thing by default. When talking to an older startd, the schedd will translate into the old syntax when possible. If it is not possible, it will cause the run attempt to fail and will then go back to the negotiator for a new match. Of course, it is even better if you specify requirements that restrict it to only matching to new versions of Condor, but at least you don't have to worry about incorrect behavior resulting from misinterpretation of the environment string. 

--Dan


On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Andrey Kaliazin wrote:


Thanks Dan.

Great news!

btw, is there any easy way to specify in the submit file which
Condor version is required for a job to run?
I know there is CondorVersion variable with content something like
"$CondorVersion: 6.7.12 Sep 24 2005 $"
but it is really cumbersome and to match against.
Wouldn't it be better to introduce separate variables, like
Condor_major = 6.7
Condor_minor = 12

Then you would be able to add to requirements something like
(Condor_minor>14)

cheers,

Andrey


-----Original Message-----
From: condor-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:condor-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:40 PM
To: Condor-Users Mail List
Subject: Re: [Condor-users] Environment problems in submit files

Andrey,

I am embarrassed to have delayed the fix I promised you in
6.7.9 until
now.  The 6.7.15 release contains a full solution to the problem of
specifying environment values when doing cross-platform submission
(e.g. you can submit from unix to windows and still have
semicolons in
your 'path' environment value).  The new syntax is platform
independent
and the delimiters (spaces) may be quoted, so you can still
insert them
into environment values if you need to.

--Dan

On Jun 17, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Dan Bradley wrote:




Andrey Kaliazin wrote:


Thanks Dan,

I guess I have to go back to 6.6.9 and wait until those

changes make

way
into release. Will it be 6.7.9 or the next one?



Even if the full solution is not available, I will make

sure there is

at least a workaround solution for 6.7.9.


Am I right to assume that the upcoming 6.6.10 will keep

the old style

behaviour in this case?


Yes.

--Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: condor-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:condor-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Bradley
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:11 PM
To: Condor-Users Mail List
Subject: Re: [Condor-users] Environment problems in submit files

Andrey,

There was a change in behavior between 6.6.x and 6.7.x

with respect

to environment settings when submitting between unix and

windows.

Basically, you always use the delimiter that is

appropriate for the

_submit_ node and Condor takes care of translating this to the
appropriate syntax for the execute node when the job

description is

sent there.  As part of the change, there was supposed to be
introduced a mechanism for escaping delimiters, but this has not
made it into a release yet.  It was an oversight on my

part to let

the one change be released without providing the other

capability.

Sorry about that.

In the mean time, you might be able to take advantage of a new
feature in 6.7.x (on the execute-node side) that allows you to
configure the runtime environment of the job.



http://www.cs.wisc.edu/condor/manual/v6.7/3_3Configuration.html#10674


For example, you should be able to configure it like this in the
config file that is read by your windows execute machines:

STARTER_JOB_ENVIRONMENT =
path=c:\cygwin\bin;c:\windows;c:\windows\system32

--Dan

Andrey Kaliazin wrote:



Dear all,

We are using Windows XP computing farm with the Linux server and
some users also find it convenient to submit windows binaries

from the Linux box. And it used to work just fine until the

Linux submit box


was upgraded from 6.6.8 to 6.7.7 version.
The problem emerged that the following line in submit file -

very convenient


way to set up the job environment -
environment = path=c:\cygwin\bin;c:\windows;c:\windows\system32

- is no longer accepted. The semicolon (;) is treated as a field
separator character and is not escapable in any standard way I
tried.

In the manual it is said indeed, that the (;) is a field

separator

when submitting from UNIX boxes, while windows compute

nodes require

semicolon as a path separator.

Is there any way to insert character (;) into

environment variable

or to tell condor_submit which character to use as a field

separator instead


of
semicolon?

regards

Andrey Kaliazin

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