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[HTCondor-users] Search on website seems broken and Re: Replacing the Email-List



To add another immodest proposal from some one who actually reads but rarely "uses" the mailing list actively would be to actually improve the search of the archives and make it more visible on the website to new users.

The site search (https://www-auth.cs.wisc.edu/lists/htcondor-users/htdig/search.shtml) seems to be broken as it points to lists.cs.wisc.edu but google indexes "https://www-auth.cs.wisc.edu/lists/htcondor-users/" for some reason.

Example searching "walltime": https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=walltime+site%3Alists.cs.wisc.edu%2Farchive%2Fhtcondor-users%2F

gives me only : https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/archive/htcondor-users/2011-April/msg00228.shtml

But there is als e.g. https://www-auth.cs.wisc.edu/lists/htcondor-users/2020-July/msg00120.shtml

which can be found via https://www.google.com/search?q=walltime+site%3Awww-auth.cs.wisc.edu%2Flists%2Fhtcondor-users%2F

If this is fixed also new users will value the mailing list much more IMHO...

Thank you for all the great ressources btw and the help provided via this list!!

My final 2 cents: I principally, however, agree that particularly new users feel a bit intimidated writing to an old school public mailing list. We had exactly this case a week ago, that I had to really convince someone to even consider posting to this list.

I "grew up" reading FreeBSD Mailing lists, so you do not have to convince me. Actually it might be good promote stackoverflow on the website for this generation: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/condor . I found the level here much lower (maybe even too low in places). I might be a really good complement to this great mailing list. It would be actually also great to see cross-posts from the mailing-list and vice-versa.

Again so many thanks for providing so much valuable ressources here and responding so fast to questions.

- Till Riedel

Am 27.05.2021 um 13:04 schrieb mtwest2718 via HTCondor-users:
I am not in charge of any aspect of HTCondor and no one from CHTC has given me any indication they plan to deprecate the user-list.

I just personally find the system antiquated and intimidating for new members of the community. Given the desire to grow dHTC outside it's usual confines, I believe shifting user-feedback to a forum would lower the bar to entry. Also these systems do enable you to get the "most recent posts" in email list form if you still want that.

But again, this was just an immodest proposal by one Uni RSE in Southwest England and nothing more.

- Matt West




-------- Original Message --------
On May 27, 2021, 11:50 AM, Bert DeKnuydt < Bert.DeKnuydt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Beyer, Christoph skrev den 27-05-2021 9:57:
> +1 :)
>

+2!

What about a vote actually?

B.
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