Re: [Condor-users] Questions about DAGMAN jobs & How to setup notification to other users in DAGMAN jobs?

["R. Kent Wenger" <wenger@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Alas, Alex [FEDI] wrote:

> Thanks again for your response, I have pretty good idea of what to do
> now.

Okay, that's good!

> I have one more question, I noticed that when I submit my .dag file it
> takes several minutes for the set of jobs A to start working in the
> pool. Is that normal or if something related to my pool only?

Well, if your node jobs are vanilla or standard universe, for example, 
they need to go through the negotiation cycle to get matched with 
machines.  I think the default for the negotiation cycle is five minutes, 
so depending on where you happen to be when DAGMan starts up, it can take
up to five minutes for the jobs to get matched.  If this is what's going 
on, it's not really related to DAGMan -- the matching for a job happens 
exactly the same whether it's submitted from DAGMan or submitted 
"manually".

> Concerning ideas on how to improve the documentation,... well, my basic
> objection is that all the examples and tutorials are base for Unix\Linux
> pools and there is very little or no reference for Windows Pools. I am
> basically a Windows guy with very little knowledge of Linux\Unix, . If
> you guys were to include example for windows pools with batch files,
> etc;  I would have been easier to understand the application and how to
> use it.

That makes sense -- I'll pass the suggestion along to our manual person.

> Also I think in the manual there is too much emphasis on the
> dependency features of the DAGMAN (I don't know why I got the impression
> at first that that DAGMAN jobs were only if you needed to configure
> dependency jobs) which I think is great and phenomenal but the fact the
> DAGMAN can also be use for  non-dependency jobs is also very valuable to
> make emphasis and for me was the main keystone feature I needed.

Ah, that's a good point.  I know there are some people who use DAGMan just 
for things like the throttling.

> I hope my input helps in something, definitely your has been very
> valuable for my work.

Okay, glad to hear that we're helping!

Kent Wenger
Condor Team